Who Are The Characters In Our Dreams? With Laure Porché

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I always look at dreams in terms of like, those are

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all different parts of me, but in this case it feels doubly clear.

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And I also liked the idea of the dice and the chance and cause, cause in

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the dream I'm thinking, there's no way I'm going to, like, there's no way to

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catch that it has to fall in your lap.

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Right.

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And that's a little bit the messages that I'm getting on terms of like kind of

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stop running around, trying to catch it.

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Like it's gonna fall on your lap and you just have to wait for.

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Spend a lot of mental energy about, you know, how and how and why.

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And maybe I should just do whatever and trust that will you know, that

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it will come through whatever I do.

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welcome to a lone travelers guide to the divine, a podcast for

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empaths, healers, streamers, and seekers.

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My name is Amanda Lux, and I'm your host.

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I'm also the creator of the elevation hive school and community membership

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for energy medicine and dreams.

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In this podcast, I offer teachings and musings around energy

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medicine, polarity therapy, and dreamwork, as well as poetry songs.

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And as you will be experiencing in today's episode interviews with

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other individuals on their healer's journey who come to share a dream.

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So today's episode.

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I've invited Laura Porche to share her dream with us.

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Laure is a polarity and constellation therapist who lives in France.

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She's also a dancer poet, textile artist, and the creator of the moon,

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that path, which in her words is a 10 month creative course to expand

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your perception of yourself and the.

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Laura is also the host of the Moonlit path podcast, which is super awesome.

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And you should definitely check it out in my show notes.

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There's a direct link.

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So go give her podcast a listen..

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But before I dive into the interview with Laura Porche and her super cool

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dream, which is titled the golden dice, I wanted to share that this episode is

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really broken up into three sections.

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One super interesting thing that comes up in Laura's dream is this

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idea around who are the characters in our dreams, who do they represent?

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So in this first section, I'm going to be talking a little bit

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about that and I'll be offering a multi-layered approach to the roles

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that our dream characters can play.

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And with that, I'm also going to be discussing the morphic field

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or the knowing field as it's.

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And how this can inform our dreams as well as our waking

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lives in a very profound way.

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In the second section, I'll be setting some groundwork for how to receive a dream

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using the elemental dreamwork method.

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And in the third section, I'll be interviewing Laura where

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she will share her dream.

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So as we.

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I just want to share that it is my intention to offer not only a listening

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experience in this podcast, but to invite you on a journey one where

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you do not have to travel alone.

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So rather than just passively listening, I invite you to be an active participator

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through this recognition that you belong to this shared and conscious

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field that is being woven here by you and all who listen, no matter where

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you are or when you are coming to the.

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So as we embark on this journey, I trust that you are going to find

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something in this dream or in this discussion that is specifically for you.

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And I invite you to pay attention and to look for that.

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By noticing what's going on in your environment and in your body and your

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thoughts and your intuition along the way.

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Because the more consciousness that we bring to the theory and

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practice of this work, the more it deepens our participation and every.

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Is a part of it.

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It becomes embodied and experiential and phenomenological.

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So that means that anything that happens in the space where you are

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contributes to and arises from the intelligence of this field that we

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are sharing and invoking right now.

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And in addition, I would also like to offer this prayer , that

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whatever occurs for you.

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In this episode brings you some healing or amusement connection.

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But most of all, may this playful work empower your life on all dimensions.

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I'd like to invite you to imagine that you're looking at

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the sky and you're watching.

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Uh, murmuration of starlings, a group of birds that are moving through the

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clouds as though they are one organism changing direction, moving in such

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a synchronized pattern without a.

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Shifting from one way to another way as though they have some secret form

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of communication that is transferred instantaneously before they have

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time to mentally process or visually locate where each other are in this

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flock, they just move perfectly.

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How are they communicating?

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How do they know.

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Where to go and when to keep in this form, this perfect form.

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And there's been a lot of science around this, trying to explain these phenomena.

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And they found that even in packs of wolves or in families we just know

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things before we could know them.

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We know them without having any visual or external evidence to initiate

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this, knowing we just know when something's happening, we know where

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somebody is or when they're about to return or when someone's staring

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at us from far away, we can feel it.

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Why, why do we feel this?

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How do we know?

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Well, some say that this is because of what is known as the morphic field.

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And this term was coined by Rupert Sheldrake, who taught

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biochemistry at Cambridge university.

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And he studied these phenomena in nature, really looking for that parallel between

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the collective unconscious that Jung talks about and how this happens in

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plant studies or also in human studies that we have this, knowing field or

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a morphic field that surrounds us that extends beyond our physicality that has

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to do with the transfer of information instantaneously or pre-cognitive.

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And if you listen to the second episode of this podcast, I talked about how we

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have an electromagnetic field with a positive and negative and neutral pole,

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just like the planet, just like magnets.

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And if you haven't listened to that episode, I invite you to

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go back for more references.

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Because another way that Sheldrake talks about this field, this morphic field is

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if you imagine that you're holding two magnets, and if you have the opposite

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ends facing each other and you draw them closer together, you're going to feel

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that pull far before they actually touch.

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And that time, that space before the magnets are touching, that's

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where their field is interacting.

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So, if you imagine that we have this field surrounding our body, we could

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actually pick up information that enters our field from others nearby or with whom

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our energy is entrained or connected.

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And it's postulated that this might be how we could know when someone is

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staring at us behind our back or how we could pick up information that isn't

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conveyed through words or actions.

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And so I want to extend this imagination that we don't only

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have this in our own body, our own field, but in groups as well.

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Just like we see in a school of fish or an army of ants, there's

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this group conscious field where there's a transfer of information

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that's going on and a, an organized way , that animals, nature plants,

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humans are responding to one another.

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And another way that science has, you know, been able to witness it is when

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they have, , rats or other animals in cages, far, far apart from each other.

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And what they found is that as soon as one group of rats learn or

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one single rat even learns a new thing, like breaks through to a new

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discovery, they find that that happens in rats, thousands of miles away.

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They all have that discovery so this shared conscious field, if you

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will, this morphic field is something that we can really, , tap into.

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In group work, such as constellation therapy, which is something that

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lower Porsche who is our guest today talks a bit about because

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she is a constellation therapist.

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And the way that works is somebody brings an issue, a life issue, a family

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issue, something that they want to work.

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And a group of people, we'll represent different aspects of their issue and.

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The people who are tuning into the field take on these roles or these

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aspects, they will start to know things and say things and act in ways that

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they could never know consciously.

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They will say the exact words that, that person's father used to say to

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them, or have images or sensations or feelings come up in their body.

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Are exactly what that person has experienced around this issue.

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It's really powerful when you participate , but we've all experienced

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it in some way, whether that was, with a feeling someone's staring at

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us or, just , knowing when somebody is going to call or having a dream

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about somebody and then they show up in your life randomly after 30 years,

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, like that kind of thing is so common.

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And we just don't have any real solid explanation for it in science, but I

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love this idea of the morphic field.

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I think that's one of the closest ways that science has come to breaking through,

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so the reason why I wanted to bring this in to this episode, Other than that.

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I think it's just utterly fascinating.

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And I could talk about this all day long is that law Porsche

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is a constellation therapist.

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And so she mentions this in her description of her dream

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that you will be hearing.

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How all of these different characters that are showing up in the space are really

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showing up as different aspects of her.

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And so I just wanted to talk about that a little bit, because there are

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various different perspectives, around who the dream characters that you

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meet in your dreams are, who are.

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And who do they represent?

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And some of the different versions or, or ways that people try to look at

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this are one is that they, there is a belief that all the characters are made

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up by our own brain, our own psyche, and, and that we're just projecting,

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And maybe Freud would say that, but I think according to young, he might

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talk more about how our dreams could be representing different archetypal

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qualities or symbolic aspects of ourselves such as our shadow or our

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inner child, or our deep seated fears that we've not really processed.

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And then there's also visitation type dreams where the main

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characters are not necessarily just symbols or symbolic aspects, such

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as people who have passed away.

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Maybe we know them or we don't, or maybe they even have information for

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us that we couldn't otherwise know.

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And we could be meeting with ancestors or.

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Different spirits.

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And then there's also Tibetan dream or sleep yoga practices

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where they intentionally go and work with teachers, enlightened

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ones, but he sought Fez or devas.

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And then there's Shamani practices from around the globe and throughout

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history where people have reported meeting with different time travelers

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in their dreams or shape-shifters animal spirit guides, higher selves

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or alternate parallel selves.

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Different briefings from other worlds or dimensions even.

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You know, and you don't even have to be religious to meet with angels.

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I've met with the angel Gabrielle one, a lucid dream on my roof of my house.

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So I know you can meet with angels and all different types of beings.

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I've met with almost all of these types of beings in my dreams.

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And then of course, spoken with other individuals who have had similar

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experiences and more than I could even mention here, it's it's VAT.

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But ultimately, I just want to convey that.

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I think it's really cool to allow for multiple possibilities to exist at the

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same time that we can interpret our dreams in a multilayered way without

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discounting one version or another.

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And I like the idea that multiple things could be possible because

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sometimes we're not even dream.

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For ourselves or as ourselves, we're actually in another dreamers body , or

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we're having a dream for somebody else.

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And this happens, this definitely happens.

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And I've heard many stories like this.

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That's another possibility.

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So even while we are inhabiting somebody else's body, and one way you can find

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that out in a dream is just to ask, like, who am I looking in a mirror?

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And sometimes you might discover that you are not yourself.

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And that's really interesting.

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So when we're not ourselves, and where somebody else do, we cease to be ourselves

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because we're still our own consciousness.

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How much of ourselves are we and how much of ourselves are, are they?

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So just to like, you know, this isn't necessarily meant to be entertainment.

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Although I find it really entertaining, it's meant to open up this.

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Realm of possibility for you to ponder who are the dream characters

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that you're interacting with.

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And I actually had a dream just last night.

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I had a dream and I had seeded my dream two nights before

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I asked for a dream where I could know in the dream that I was dreaming.

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And those were the words that I used.

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And so two nights later, I had a dream where in the middle of this random dream,

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I suddenly realized that I was dreaming.

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I became lucid.

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And as soon as I became lucid , I looked at this, there was this random word.

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Person passing me on a S on a stairwell.

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And I looked at them and I just like broke through that wall of congeniality

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that where we don't stare at people, cause I was like, I'm dreaming.

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This is my dream.

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And who is this guy?

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Like, how did he get here?

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Who, who, who is he?

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And I was just staring at him.

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And the funniest thing happened is the more I looked at him, the

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more like he started to, he, it, he realized I was staring at him

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and he got really uncomfortable and he started back up the stairs.

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Like he was getting freaked out that I was staring at.

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In this really unconventional way.

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And like, I was this Uber conscious, you know, being

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just looking right through him.

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And he started to become almost two dimensional.

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I noticed that he, he stopped feeling like a real person and he started to seem more

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like one of those, what they call like a non-player character in a video game.

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I swear I don't play video games, but my son does.

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I, that was the first thing I thought of in the dream.

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I'm like, as he a non-player character, he just, the stand in.

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Is he even a real person?

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What is he doing here?

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He was just passing by.

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So.

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I didn't, I don't have any answers for that, but I think the mystery is

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far more interesting than any answer I could possibly make up for you.

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And I remember when I was a teenager and I've been obsessed with dreams my

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whole life, this character in this book suggested that we could move through

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our waking lives as though we were in a dream and contemplating and meeting

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each character in our waking lives as though they were an aspect of ourselves.

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And I loved that.

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The game of that so much that I started thinking like that when I

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was a teenager, I started to observe what aspect of me are they playing?

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What are they showing me?

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What are they mirroring from inside my own psyche or my own soul that I

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haven't even contemplated yet, that I need to know what do I need to know?

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What do I need to learn from this?

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And we could even weave this into this whole concept of a field of intelligence

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that is shared, that is swimming around in this soup of intelligence

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that we can tap into at any time.

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And that in this consciousness soup, we're all playing each

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other mirroring each other.

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And we are all the center of the universe.

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And we are even the non-player character that are showing up.

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Where the inanimate objects and what if.

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Even those have some kind of sentience or intelligence or reflection for us.

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And if there is this shared field of consciousness that could extend, , to

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other individuals or groups, could it not extend to all people and all

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beings and all things everywhere.

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I mean, why not?

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So I invite you to go on this dream adventure with me as we now move

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into just a little breakdown of the elemental dreamwork method followed by

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the, "the Golden Dice" Laura's dream.

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In the elemental dreamwork.

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We are moving through each of the five elements, which correlate to the

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five physical chakras in the body.

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And we are applying these qualities that each of the elements possess to a way

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of listening to and contemplating our.

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And so the first one, the first element is the ether element and

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that relates to the throat chakra.

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And when we listened to the dream , and you can do this with friends, family,

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clients, whomever you want to first invite them to tune into what's in the field.

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Here's that word again?

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What's in the knowing field of their life that could be affecting them.

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And maybe this is something they were thinking about talking about

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something that's been on their mind, or perhaps they seeded the dream or they

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incubated the dream with an intention.

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Maybe they wanted to have a specific dream or ask for

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guidance around a specific issue.

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And so all of that would be in the ether of the dream elemental dream work process.

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And the next level down is the air element, which rules the

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heart chakra, and also our mind.

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And so when we get to the air element of the dream sharing

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process, we're asking the person to.

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Think about and talk about and communicate what the dream was about.

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If you were by yourself, that would be writing it down in a dream journal, or

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it could be speaking it out loud into a recorder, or you could be sharing

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it with somebody in your life and just contemplating it or psychoanalyzing

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it from a mental perspective.

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From there, we stepped down into the fire element.

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So we go from, you know, the ether what's in the field of this stream to

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the air, which is the mental field to the fire, which is the physical field.

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We're now stepping into a lower vibratory pattern.

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Embodied.

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And so I invite in the fire of the, of the dream sharing process to

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tune into how you feel in your body.

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As you tell the dream, as you contemplate it and share it, you know, what did

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you feel when you very first woke up in your body and what do you feel now?

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Because there's a whole lot of information.

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That is held in our physical bodies.

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And when we tune in somatically to the dream space, we get more, we get

Amanda Lux: 00:23:15

informed in a deeper way, and that could be, um, sensations that are

Amanda Lux: 00:23:20

arising in the moment, or it could be sensations that we had in the dreams.

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That are informing us.

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So that's just another layer.

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Another way to glean information or insight or Intuit insight, uh,

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information from the dream space.

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And then from the fire, we move into the water element,

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which relates to the second.

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And the water is that sort of deeper, intuitive knowing I

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often think of the sharing or the reflection that comes back to us.

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Once we have shared the dream or what's being reflected , as we

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move through our waking lives.

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Now with that dream in our consciousness where the world is reflecting back

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and then the last element is the earth element and in the earth element

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where we're really coming to the completion of the cycle and we're

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taking it into our lives now, maybe with some kind of action or ritual,

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how do we want to honor the dream?

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How are we going to take action based on what we learned from the dream?

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What do we want to create because of this dream?

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And it just takes then.

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The information or the learning or the, it deepens it to an embodied,

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uh, way of living the dream.

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And so that's the final aspect of the elemental dreamwork process.

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And I just wanted to give you a little rundown of those in case this is your

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first time listening, but also because you know, each time we contemplate each

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of these layers, it takes us somewhere

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so I invite you to tune in to your own energy as you listened to Laura's

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dream as though it were your own.

Amanda Lux: 00:25:28

Welcome Laura.

Amanda Lux: 00:25:28

Thank you so much for being here.

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Thank you for having me.

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While we're here in the ether.

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I just want to just kind of set the space a little bit before you share

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your dream, just to kind of invoke the space and invite, our guides and allies

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and , just speak to the container that, that this is for the highest good of all.

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And that it's a safe and sacred.

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For you to share.

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And so I really appreciate you being willing to share a dream.

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It's a vulnerable thing, and it's a beautiful gift because when you share

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it, it becomes our dream to a little bit.

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So thank you.

Amanda Lux: 00:26:08

You're welcome.

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My pleasure.

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Cool.

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And so you brought a dream to share.

Laure Porché: 00:26:14

Yeah, I don't, um, I don't usually plant seeds or have intent.

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But it's a pretty recent dream.

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It's like maybe a week old.

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And, I'm in this, I mean, this phase in my life where I'm really reevaluating how

Laure Porché: 00:26:28

I want to work and what it wants to do.

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And like asking all those questions about who am I and what am I bringing to the

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world and how am I going to share it?

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And so that's kind of like the.

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The environment that I'm in the inner environment, this is hard thing.

Laure Porché: 00:26:42

Got it.

Laure Porché: 00:26:43

Okay.

Laure Porché: 00:26:43

So as we, as we move into the air of the dream process, I

Laure Porché: 00:26:48

would love to hear the dream.

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Have you express it and share it, and . What you think of it.

Laure Porché: 00:26:55

Um, in the dream, I'm going with a friend I'm with a friend and we're going

Laure Porché: 00:26:59

to, to watch an audience like a trial.

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Um, and then when we get there, it's not a trial, it's a guru,

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um, doing like a massive.

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Kind of conference many people everywhere.

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And, and the group is like, uh, OSHA light, you know, is like a very typical

Laure Porché: 00:27:22

or white with a beard and turban.

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And my friends is the best place to say this by the wall.

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And then she sits and then she sits Stoli in a different place.

Laure Porché: 00:27:32

And I'm like, okay.

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And, and I see those, some people are sitting on those very low chair.

Laure Porché: 00:27:40

Um, and I'm, and I really like those chairs and I really want to find

Laure Porché: 00:27:44

one of those chairs to sit in and I can't find what they're all taken.

Laure Porché: 00:27:48

And they've piles of chairs that are all different and I'm rooting through

Laure Porché: 00:27:53

all those piles of chairs, trying to find the chair that I saw that I

Laure Porché: 00:27:56

want to sit in and I'm not finding.

Laure Porché: 00:28:01

And I'm looking at her.

Laure Porché: 00:28:02

I'm like, I really can't find my place.

Laure Porché: 00:28:03

I can find my place in the dream.

Laure Porché: 00:28:05

I'm thinking, well, this is a constellation thing.

Laure Porché: 00:28:08

Uh, I've had that awareness in the dream, oh, this is a constellation thing.

Laure Porché: 00:28:12

Where is your place?

Laure Porché: 00:28:13

Where is your chair?

Laure Porché: 00:28:15

She says the best places by the wall, but then she doesn't even sit there

Laure Porché: 00:28:19

seeing all these different chair options.

Laure Porché: 00:28:22

And you're taking in all the options.

Laure Porché: 00:28:24

Yeah.

Laure Porché: 00:28:25

And so I don't find the chair that I want.

Laure Porché: 00:28:28

So I, I ended up taking like two cushions and saying, okay, I'm just

Laure Porché: 00:28:31

going to sit against the wall so they can have something to lean on.

Laure Porché: 00:28:36

Um, and I try to sit next to someone who's playing a musical instrument and

Laure Porché: 00:28:40

it's really, it's a really tight fit.

Laure Porché: 00:28:42

And she says, no, when you please sit there where I can see

Laure Porché: 00:28:46

you, like, I want to see you.

Laure Porché: 00:28:47

And she calls me by my name.

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And I feel really acknowledged by that.

Laure Porché: 00:28:52

I feel like, wow, she knows me.

Laure Porché: 00:28:54

Like what's, you know, it's like a huge crowd and how come she knows me?

Laure Porché: 00:28:59

And they feel very like, wow, this is, this is really nice.

Laure Porché: 00:29:01

I feel very seen.

Laure Porché: 00:29:04

And then, and so I haven't been in this thing to the group all this time.

Laure Porché: 00:29:06

Right.

Laure Porché: 00:29:07

There's been talk and I'd be like fixated on the chair and, and then he throws in

Laure Porché: 00:29:14

the crowd, a golden dice or cold and die.

Laure Porché: 00:29:17

I think you get, I guess you see, I never know in English it's like, um,

Laure Porché: 00:29:22

and I, and I, I gather that the one who catches it as the right to ask a

Laure Porché: 00:29:26

question, And the dice is bouncing, like at the speed of light everywhere.

Laure Porché: 00:29:33

And I almost catch it.

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And then don't because it's just too fast.

Laure Porché: 00:29:38

And then this woman next, not far from him and catches it, um, with a tool, something

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like some, some long tool actually catches it and she's really proud of herself.

Laure Porché: 00:29:47

She's like, look, I caught it.

Laure Porché: 00:29:49

And then when she goes to take it, the dust, the souls into

Laure Porché: 00:29:54

companies, or like some kind of.

Laure Porché: 00:29:56

Leaves.

Laure Porché: 00:29:58

And, um, and I wonder, and I'm thinking, oh, I wonder if this is because

Laure Porché: 00:30:01

she didn't catch it with her hands.

Laure Porché: 00:30:02

She caught it with a tool and that's the end of that.

Laure Porché: 00:30:06

So when you very first, like woke up from the stream and as you, as you're

Laure Porché: 00:30:13

sitting with it now as well, it's probably evolved a little bit for you.

Laure Porché: 00:30:18

I'm just curious, like, how do you feel, how do you feel in your body?

Laure Porché: 00:30:21

Like, what do you feel when you sit with this.

Laure Porché: 00:30:25

I feel my right side is really present.

Laure Porché: 00:30:29

I mean, it usually is, but I'm feeling it more than usual, I guess.

Laure Porché: 00:30:34

Um, I feel activated just because of telling it, you know, do you, or like

Laure Porché: 00:30:41

in this setting and zoom and, um,

Laure Porché: 00:30:48

And, um, um, I, I feel amused.

Laure Porché: 00:30:52

I think it's really funny.

Laure Porché: 00:30:54

I think it's a really telling dream and that makes me laugh.

Laure Porché: 00:30:58

So you feel sort of activated a little bit just from bringing it in and then

Laure Porché: 00:31:01

you also really notice your right side of your body and that's normal for you, but

Laure Porché: 00:31:05

you're really aware of that right now.

Laure Porché: 00:31:09

Is there something, do you have a particular question that you are

Laure Porché: 00:31:13

still pondering about the dream?

Laure Porché: 00:31:15

Well, I wonder what the guru is about.

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Cause really, I didn't care at all about him, the whole dream.

Laure Porché: 00:31:23

Like he was like talking and teaching and it was like, I chair my chair

Laure Porché: 00:31:28

and then the person with the music and then, and then the day, but I

Laure Porché: 00:31:31

didn't, you know, it didn't feel like, oh, I have to listen to this person.

Laure Porché: 00:31:36

Yeah, I'm curious about the relationship, you know, if there is a relationship

Laure Porché: 00:31:40

and I'm also curious about the fact that I, I went into this room or

Laure Porché: 00:31:44

this place thinking I was going to watch a trial and I thought, I

Laure Porché: 00:31:48

think that's really interesting.

Laure Porché: 00:31:50

I don't know why it's really interesting, but it, it feels very interesting to me.

Laure Porché: 00:31:55

Um, but that transformed I trial.

Laure Porché: 00:31:59

And what is, what is trial mean to you?

Laure Porché: 00:32:04

Well, it brings the idea of, of judgment obviously.

Laure Porché: 00:32:08

Um, and, and, you know, what's good there, good and bad and right.

Laure Porché: 00:32:11

And wrong and notions that I'm not really fond of in general.

Laure Porché: 00:32:15

And just like the complete opposite between what I was

Laure Porché: 00:32:18

expecting, which is like a very.

Laure Porché: 00:32:20

Kind of dark room with, you know, very serious.

Laure Porché: 00:32:23

And then this is kind of like hippie crowd sitting on the

Laure Porché: 00:32:28

floor and chairs of all sizes.

Laure Porché: 00:32:30

And then it's like white girl, like all dressed in white.

Laure Porché: 00:32:36

Funny.

Laure Porché: 00:32:37

Moving into the, you know, the water elements of the process here, the

Laure Porché: 00:32:42

fire is sort of, how does it feel in your body what's coming up for you

Laure Porché: 00:32:45

and then tuning into the water of the.

Laure Porché: 00:32:48

I'm really just going to try it on as though it was my dream

Laure Porché: 00:32:53

and just like feeling into it.

Laure Porché: 00:32:55

The first sort of thing that I wonder is , what aspects of these characters

Laure Porché: 00:33:00

are, what's important about how they're embodying a reflection of myself or a part

Laure Porché: 00:33:06

of my own life or my own psyche versus.

Laure Porché: 00:33:09

Are they guides or, sometimes it's both simultaneously of course, too,

Laure Porché: 00:33:14

but when I try it on, I think like about that aspect of, of me as the guru.

Laure Porché: 00:33:21

Right.

Laure Porché: 00:33:21

And I also love that you had that thought like, oh, this is so

Laure Porché: 00:33:24

constellation when you're looking for them in the dream, you know, that

Laure Porché: 00:33:29

you're looking for the right seat.

Laure Porché: 00:33:31

Where do you go?

Laure Porché: 00:33:32

Where do you put yourself in the scene?

Laure Porché: 00:33:34

And the question ultimately of like, who is the guru or.

Laure Porché: 00:33:40

And maybe, should I not be focusing on him rather than on all the chair options.

Laure Porché: 00:33:46

That's just not going to make a big difference.

Laure Porché: 00:33:51

Yeah.

Laure Porché: 00:33:52

I mean, also in the context of what you were saying, where your life is sort

Laure Porché: 00:33:57

of like you're contemplating how to show up in your business where do you

Laure Porché: 00:34:01

put yourself and being seen, right.

Laure Porché: 00:34:05

There's something about that being seen and known , I think

Laure Porché: 00:34:09

there is always something about.

Laure Porché: 00:34:11

When we are sharing our work too, there is that whole, I don't want

Laure Porché: 00:34:15

to have to be the guru or very, very active thought in my mind all the time.

Laure Porché: 00:34:25

Yeah.

Laure Porché: 00:34:27

Careful with that.

Laure Porché: 00:34:28

Right.

Laure Porché: 00:34:29

For sure.

Laure Porché: 00:34:30

The expert or the guru.

Laure Porché: 00:34:32

Yeah.

Laure Porché: 00:34:34

How does that feel?

Laure Porché: 00:34:35

Like when I just reflect on that?

Laure Porché: 00:34:37

It feels very, it feels very good and, um, and relevant, um, in terms

Laure Porché: 00:34:43

of like other things that like other messages I'm getting through work that

Laure Porché: 00:34:48

I'm doing for myself and, um, that there's really kind of reassemble like

Laure Porché: 00:34:55

a reassembling of some parts of me that need to kind of sell together before

Laure Porché: 00:34:59

I go out and do something about it.

Laure Porché: 00:35:03

Um, But yeah, I do see like the there's, there's definitely something

Laure Porché: 00:35:08

about acknowledgement and it feels when I'm thinking about the dream.

Laure Porché: 00:35:12

Uh, very clear.

Laure Porché: 00:35:13

Like I always look at dreams in terms of like, those are all different parts of me.

Laure Porché: 00:35:18

But in this case it feels doubly clear.

Laure Porché: 00:35:23

And I also liked the idea of the dice and the chance and cause, cause in the

Laure Porché: 00:35:26

dream I'm thinking there's no way I'm going to, there's no way to catch that.

Laure Porché: 00:35:30

It has to fall in your lap.

Laure Porché: 00:35:32

And that's a little bit, the messages that I'm getting on terms of like, of

Laure Porché: 00:35:37

stop running around, trying to catch it, like it's gonna fall in your lap

Laure Porché: 00:35:40

and you just have to wait for it.

Laure Porché: 00:35:44

And, and I'm thinking also movie star, um, focusing so much on the two.

Laure Porché: 00:35:49

That's that's what I'm, you know, and ultimately the dream that's what I did.

Laure Porché: 00:35:52

I was like, this is stupid.

Laure Porché: 00:35:53

Like I'm just going to take, because you know, I'm missing what's happening

Laure Porché: 00:35:57

because I'm so focused on the damn chair.

Laure Porché: 00:36:01

And so that's something that I definitely could bring into my life.

Laure Porché: 00:36:06

Cause I, I spend a lot of mental energy about, you know, how and how and why.

Laure Porché: 00:36:15

Um, and maybe I should just do whatever and trust that will you know, that

Laure Porché: 00:36:21

it will come through whatever I do.

Laure Porché: 00:36:23

Yeah.

Laure Porché: 00:36:23

I, it feels like when I try on the dream, it feels like for me that the tape.

Laure Porché: 00:36:28

I love what your takeaway is, making that connection of maybe to

Laure Porché: 00:36:32

start focusing on all the chairs or the tools or the things, right.

Laure Porché: 00:36:36

It's like, oh, I can just sit down and listen, and, , I'll get when

Laure Porché: 00:36:41

it's my time, the day will come to me or I'll get what I need.

Laure Porché: 00:36:44

There's something about that.

Laure Porché: 00:36:46

And you'll be recognized, you know, you will be seen.

Laure Porché: 00:36:49

Wow.

Laure Porché: 00:36:50

That feels like a, a power piece to me of recognition.

Laure Porché: 00:36:57

So very cool.

Laure Porché: 00:36:59

And, and then, then just to bring it into the earth, is there anything that

Laure Porché: 00:37:03

you want to do in your life to honor the dream specifically or any action

Laure Porché: 00:37:07

that you might want to take around it?

Laure Porché: 00:37:09

Well, I kind of like that image of the dye.

Laure Porché: 00:37:12

Um, I might, I might work on it in textile.

Laure Porché: 00:37:15

Um, Um, cause I was thinking I could, I could embroider it on, I could do a

Laure Porché: 00:37:19

piece around it and now I'm thinking I could make like a 3d fabric dye, but

Laure Porché: 00:37:25

I wouldn't need like a gold fabric.

Laure Porché: 00:37:27

So I might need to get some old fabric now.

Laure Porché: 00:37:34

So when you say that and like, ah, I know, I guess I do a lot of textile.

Laure Porché: 00:37:39

I work around my dreams and that's also what I do with my

Laure Porché: 00:37:42

people in them in the past.

Laure Porché: 00:37:43

They've been doing that and they're like, oh my God, this is amazing.

Laure Porché: 00:37:46

Um, and so that's, yeah, that's, that's inspiring for me.

Laure Porché: 00:37:50

Like the golden Knights really strong.

Laure Porché: 00:37:52

It wasn't really strong.

Laure Porché: 00:37:53

And I imagined the dream.

Laure Porché: 00:37:54

Like I really have those kinds of symbolic objects in my dreams.

Laure Porché: 00:37:58

It's not.

Laure Porché: 00:37:58

So, um, and so it was like, wow.

Laure Porché: 00:38:03

It's cool when you get an actual symbolic object, like for sure.

Laure Porché: 00:38:07

And then the fact that you're an artist and you could then

Laure Porché: 00:38:10

do a representation of that.

Laure Porché: 00:38:12

And then that again, that takes that energy of the dream and brings

Laure Porché: 00:38:18

even more forward into your life and helps process what that is.

Laure Porché: 00:38:23

I don't know, it feels like a magical, higher self access key,

Laure Porché: 00:38:28

you know, ask any question if you're holding the golden dye, you know?

Laure Porché: 00:38:33

Yeah, exactly.

Laure Porché: 00:38:35

I want that on my alter, you know, Absolutely.

Laure Porché: 00:38:41

You want to bring it with you in classes?

Laure Porché: 00:38:43

Like wear it in a medicine pouch I don't know.

Laure Porché: 00:38:49

Giant, giant, golden.

Laure Porché: 00:38:51

We're going on a big chain.

Laure Porché: 00:38:53

I mean, I, like, I made a, felt heart with a, with a tree growing out of it,

Laure Porché: 00:38:57

um, before, when, before my first class with them in the bath as a, and it's

Laure Porché: 00:39:02

like a, it's an anchor, it's like a 3d object and it's, uh, it's definitely.

Laure Porché: 00:39:07

It's like a safety blanket.

Laure Porché: 00:39:11

And like I said, it's an anchor.

Laure Porché: 00:39:12

It's like an anchor to that, that energetic thing.

Laure Porché: 00:39:15

See that came through in your, in your dream.

Laure Porché: 00:39:18

It's really cool to have that.

Laure Porché: 00:39:20

I also paint and create from my dreams, almost exclusively.

Laure Porché: 00:39:25

Everything that I have made so far has been based on a dream

Laure Porché: 00:39:29

or a conscious dream journey.

Laure Porché: 00:39:31

But I find that that as a process, it's like, I don't

Laure Porché: 00:39:34

have any interest in painting.

Laure Porché: 00:39:36

Yeah, right.

Laure Porché: 00:39:38

I try to explore that actually and get into like more abstract art and stuff,

Laure Porché: 00:39:43

but, but I just love painting my dreams because I love the process of what

Laure Porché: 00:39:47

comes from that and creating something from the dream then like anchors that

Laure Porché: 00:39:53

energy or it furthers the, the learning and the growing it's interactive.

Laure Porché: 00:39:59

Yeah, it does.

Laure Porché: 00:40:00

It does further the process.

Laure Porché: 00:40:01

And I do, I make pieces from dreams and from, um, work that I do was with

Laure Porché: 00:40:07

fascinators and therapists for myself, like moments that I have in, in workshops

Laure Porché: 00:40:11

or sessions, um, to get an anchor, like things that come to me in those moments.

Laure Porché: 00:40:18

And also because as you make it.

Laure Porché: 00:40:20

Um, also when you work with textiles, it's very slow.

Laure Porché: 00:40:23

So it's like, it gives time to your soul to kind of digest the, you know,

Laure Porché: 00:40:27

the voice going up, but also as you make it, um, your subconscious shows

Laure Porché: 00:40:34

you things in how you were making it.

Laure Porché: 00:40:36

Yes, totally set a true central.

Laure Porché: 00:40:41

So, cool.

Laure Porché: 00:40:42

Well, thank you so much for sharing your dream.

Laure Porché: 00:40:45

I loved your dream

Laure Porché: 00:40:50

for mirroring it and trying it on.

Laure Porché: 00:40:54

Really appreciate it.

Laure Porché: 00:40:55

Well, thank you so much for being a part of this Laure.

Laure Porché: 00:40:59

I really appreciate you and what you're doing and what you're offering.

Laure Porché: 00:41:02

And definitely if you're listening to this and you are.

Laure Porché: 00:41:07

Interested in checking out her staff, then you should fully go to her website.

Laure Porché: 00:41:11

So my website is, uh, : themoonlitpath.space okay.

Laure Porché: 00:41:16

Okay.

Laure Porché: 00:41:16

Sweet.

Laure Porché: 00:41:18

And the Moonlight path is your 10 month program.

Laure Porché: 00:41:22

Awesome.

Laure Porché: 00:41:23

wll, definitely check that out and thank you so much for being here for having me.

Amanda Lux: 00:41:58

so to just sum up the reflection about her dream, I

Amanda Lux: 00:42:03

thought it was super interesting that she thought, that she was

Amanda Lux: 00:42:08

going to be heading into a trial.

Amanda Lux: 00:42:11

In the ether of her dream , she mentioned that she's been, , preparing

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to launch some programs online, putting yourself out there online or

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putting out a podcast takes a lot of effort you have to expose yourself.

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And especially for those of us who are in the healing arts, that can it can

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feel like you're heading into a trial.

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Lo and behold, it was this more like this guru sitting on a stage

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that, , had this golden die.

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And of course, when she first enters, she's not looking at the guru, she's

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looking at, where should she sit?

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Which she commented was very much like.

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Uh, constellation.

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Right?

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Where do you put yourself in the field?

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Where do you belong?

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Where are you in relationship to the guru on the stage or the, to the woman with the

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instruments, the artist, or the audience?

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So there's this element of, um, trying to figure out where to

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put yourself in relation to all these other players and roles.

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That you are playing in your own life.

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And that can be a distracting thing, right?

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We can actually spend a lot of time wandering around wondering what platform

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to put this on, or how much energy to put into Instagram and of course, with that,

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there's all these tools, shiny tools.

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You know, and we're playing a game of chance.

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Will we be heard?

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Will we, will we get recognized?

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Will we be witnessed while people see us for who we are?

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And do we have to be a guru?

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We don't want to be that, you know, so Laura even says, I

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don't want to be the cool.

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At the same time, you know, we want to catch that dye.

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There's this game of chance when you put yourself out there that you'll

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be discovered or you'll be witnessed, and there's a chance that you won't.

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And, you know, there's a lot of quote unquote shiny tools out there that, you

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know, are offering to elevate us to that guru status, but, you know, do the tools

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work in her dream, the tool disintegrated.

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And so the question is, is that I think.

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We don't need to worry about where we are sitting in the field of our life here.

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We don't need to worry about what platform or whether we're in a chair

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or on the floor against the wall.

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And we don't need the tool.

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Ultimately, we are all of these players.

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We are the guru.

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We are a higher selves.

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We are the, the artist and the witness.

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And ultimately I think her takeaway.

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She will be seen and that her work will get across to the people that,

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that need to catch it, you know?

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And, um, I just thought what a brilliant, brilliant dream, but a brilliant

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play of all of those different roles.

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And I certainly related to her dream in all of those ways.

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And I'm curious how you related to Laures dream I would love to know

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thank you so much for listening to the third episode of alone,

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Traveler's guide to the divine with our dream guests, LaurePorsche.

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Please check out the links to her offerings in the show notes I appreciate

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you listening, sharing this podcast with a friend and giving maybe a few

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stars or a review on apple podcasts or wherever you might be listening.

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Cause that would be so helpful and supportive.

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I invite you to send me an email.

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To be@elevationhive.com.

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If anything, in Laura's dream or this episode resonated with

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you, as I would love to know.

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Thank you so much for participating in the knowing field of our conscious

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journey that we are weaving here together through this podcast.

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And may this deepen your own inquiry and exploration of your night dreams, your

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energy and the waking dream of your life in the best and highest way possible.