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when I think about the collective body, what I wanna do is be

Ruby Roebuck: 00:00:04

like feeling my feelings and moving them.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:00:06

That's where I wanna be.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:00:07

I wanna be located in the heart of the collective body.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:00:11

Mm-hmm.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:00:11

. If every human being came together, I'm gonna make room when I cry to

Ruby Roebuck: 00:00:15

like play the piano to make something beautiful and to really go to the

Ruby Roebuck: 00:00:18

depths of my being, you know, on behalf of everything and everyone.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:00:24

that's going on.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:00:24

And then it also becomes a prayer.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:00:26

And it's not just like I'm, I'm sad and I don't dunno what to do.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:00:31

And you know, When we have practices that allow us to explore our hearts

Ruby Roebuck: 00:00:36

and our emotions, we can create, we can actually create something

Ruby Roebuck: 00:00:40

beautiful that we're like proud.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:00:43

Like you can turn it into something.

Amanda Lux: 00:01:02

welcome to Lone Traveler's Guide to the Divine, a podcast for

Amanda Lux: 00:01:06

empaths, healers, dreamers, and seekers.

Amanda Lux: 00:01:09

My name is Amanda Lux and I'm the creator of The Elevation Hive School and Community

Amanda Lux: 00:01:14

for Energy Medicine and Dreamwork.

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This episode is a super special, unique one, especially in how it came to be

Amanda Lux: 00:01:24

in that I was really listening for the last few weeks to my own energy

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and to the ways that I find alignment.

Amanda Lux: 00:01:33

And more often than not, how I get out of alignment through

Amanda Lux: 00:01:38

the air element personally.

Amanda Lux: 00:01:41

Up to the point where this morning I just had no idea how I was going to be able to

Amanda Lux: 00:01:47

share from a place of wisdom and truth.

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I knew that I was gonna have to get there myself, and all I could

Amanda Lux: 00:01:54

see was the things in the way.

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and for the last few weeks, my daughter was in town for the holidays visiting

Amanda Lux: 00:02:04

from where they go to college, . And they just kept asking me, how is your heart?

Amanda Lux: 00:02:10

How is your heart?

Amanda Lux: 00:02:11

And it was the funniest thing because I had more challenge come up around that

Amanda Lux: 00:02:17

question than I ever would've thought.

Amanda Lux: 00:02:21

And it really did, , invite me to look deeper into that question of how do I

Amanda Lux: 00:02:26

align through my heart, through the air?

Amanda Lux: 00:02:29

And so, A lot of times when we ask a question like that, the answer we get

Amanda Lux: 00:02:36

comes through the form of self-work of this is where you're out of alignment.

Amanda Lux: 00:02:41

This is where you aren't there.

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This is where your challenge is.

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And then we get to observe that.

Amanda Lux: 00:02:47

, and it can be really difficult sometimes to observe it with compassion, but I

Amanda Lux: 00:02:52

was just amazed with the opportunities that came up through my daughter.

Amanda Lux: 00:02:57

And so this morning, as I was sitting in preparation to hit record and.

Amanda Lux: 00:03:04

I was tuning into my own heart and I was feeling all of the ways I was not in

Amanda Lux: 00:03:10

alignment in my own energy, specifically in relation to the air element.

Amanda Lux: 00:03:18

And I actually consciously went and connect.

Amanda Lux: 00:03:23

On a spirit level energetically.

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With my daughter.

Amanda Lux: 00:03:26

I was thinking about them and how they inspire that energy for me, and then I

Amanda Lux: 00:03:32

hit record and I started to talk and all of a sudden they called it was seriously

Amanda Lux: 00:03:38

divine timing I hit pause on the record.

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and I said, Ruby , I can't believe you're calling me right now.

Amanda Lux: 00:03:45

Do you have time in your busy schedule to hop on Zoom with me and

Amanda Lux: 00:03:50

have a conversation about the heart?

Amanda Lux: 00:03:53

And they were like, sure.

Amanda Lux: 00:03:55

. So spontaneously, which is very much in the, in the realm of the air, is that

Amanda Lux: 00:04:01

kind of , spontaneous synchronistic.

Amanda Lux: 00:04:05

Heart connection space we created and we had the most profound conversation,

Amanda Lux: 00:04:10

and we got to a place where by the end , I had just been weeping and

Amanda Lux: 00:04:15

weeping and feeling so much in my heart.

Amanda Lux: 00:04:19

Like I have never experienced almost, you know, maybe I have, I don't wanna

Amanda Lux: 00:04:23

say never, but in a very unique way.

Amanda Lux: 00:04:27

I felt super, super centered in my heart.

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. So I'm really, really thrilled that I get to share this conversation in this

Amanda Lux: 00:04:35

episode , that I didn't know how I was gonna get to , and that it came through

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the resource of this human being who is in my life, who's so special to me.

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That I now get to share with you as we journey into this question of.

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What happens when we aren't in our, our alignment through our heart?

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What does that feel like?

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And why don't we go there?

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What is the scary thing about that?

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, and what are some of the practices that we can use to get there?

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And Ruby has so many really beautiful words to share around that.

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This is from a young person who is 20 and in college.

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Is one of the wisest, oldest souls I've ever met.

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Always has been.

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So it's a really beautiful thing to hear their expression around this topic, which

Amanda Lux: 00:05:30

is something that they spend a lot of time and they do a lot of work around.

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But before I share this beautiful conversation that I had with my daughter

Amanda Lux: 00:05:41

and all these incredible tools around aligning your energy in your air, in your.

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. I wanted to also just let you know that I have a vlog that accompanies this

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episode as I, I have been doing lately.

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but it's a little different than the others in that it's not necessarily

Amanda Lux: 00:06:03

going along with the audio podcast.

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I'm sharing instead an adventure.

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I had exactly one year ago when I was in Puerto Rico painting

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three, four story murals.

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And that's the video that I'm gonna be sharing, with

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the release of this episode.

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, so I invite you to check that out on my YouTube channel.

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If you enjoy it, please hit the like button, subscribe, comment.

Amanda Lux: 00:06:33

That is so supportive for me.

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When you do those things, I, it means so much.

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And I also wanted to just mention that I do have a bunch of classes coming up.

Amanda Lux: 00:06:46

A lot of them are in person and I also will have some online

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courses coming up available on my.

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Where you can learn about polarity therapy, craniosacral therapy, dreamwork,

Amanda Lux: 00:06:58

and , other aspects of energy medicine.

Amanda Lux: 00:07:01

So you can look at elevationhive.com and check out my new website, and there

Amanda Lux: 00:07:07

are a lot of resources there for you.

Amanda Lux: 00:07:11

And so today's topic, aligning our energy through our heart chakra, through the

Amanda Lux: 00:07:18

air element, and this is a precious, beautiful, sacred conversation that is

Amanda Lux: 00:07:26

intimate and authentic and vulnerable and all of the beautiful things.

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Between myself and my daughter,

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so I'm super honored to bring into this episode my daughter Ruby Roebuck,

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who is, , an incredible human being

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And to begin, I just wanna invite you, Ruby, , to share how is your heart today?

Amanda Lux: 00:08:05

How are you and how is your heart?

Ruby Roebuck: 00:08:08

Hi.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:08:10

Um, I'm so grateful to be here.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:08:15

Very excited.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:08:16

This is probably my favorite thing to talk about and think about.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:08:21

My heart is feeling very full right now.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:08:27

I woke up just a couple of hours ago and usually spend the morning time.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:08:33

To check in with my body and think about my dreams and

Ruby Roebuck: 00:08:37

set an intention for the day.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:08:39

So I'm still in that morning reflective space where I'm kind of

Ruby Roebuck: 00:08:46

exploring what, what is in my heart today, like what's alive today.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:08:52

So I, it feels like things are moving and bubbling up and, um, I feel a

Ruby Roebuck: 00:09:00

lot of gratitude in this moment and really comfortable and grounded.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:09:05

I'm excited to be here.

Amanda Lux: 00:09:07

Hmm.

Amanda Lux: 00:09:09

Thank you for sharing that and your morning routine.

Amanda Lux: 00:09:12

What a beautiful practice that is, that you have, and I'm not surprised at all

Amanda Lux: 00:09:18

to hear that you engage that way in your own heart and your own energy on

Amanda Lux: 00:09:23

a daily basis, just knowing you and who

Ruby Roebuck: 00:09:26

you are.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:09:27

Yay.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:09:28

It also includes movement.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:09:30

Yeah.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:09:30

Like after I get up, there's usually, especially with the

Ruby Roebuck: 00:09:33

heart, cuz it's usually like hard to identify all that's going on.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:09:39

It's just like feelings.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:09:41

So I like to wiggle my body and my arms and feel the energy in

Ruby Roebuck: 00:09:45

in my body and move whatever's going on in my heart, through my

Ruby Roebuck: 00:09:49

whole being to drop more into that.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:09:52

Hmm.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:09:54

Which does feel like a heart-centered embodied morning practice?

Ruby Roebuck: 00:09:58

I would say

Amanda Lux: 00:09:59

yes, that sounds like the definition of a

Amanda Lux: 00:10:03

heart-centered embodiment practice.

Amanda Lux: 00:10:07

, . How is my heart moving?

Amanda Lux: 00:10:08

How is my heart relating to my body?

Amanda Lux: 00:10:10

What's happening here in this other dimension of my physicality

Amanda Lux: 00:10:14

in relation to my heart?

Amanda Lux: 00:10:15

I love that exploration.

Amanda Lux: 00:10:17

And I'm curious, just from your perspective, Ruby, like why,

Amanda Lux: 00:10:22

why do you tune into your heart regularly and in this way?

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why do you think it's important for anyone to wake up and ask that question?

Amanda Lux: 00:10:30

How is my heart today?

Amanda Lux: 00:10:32

Yeah.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:10:33

It feels like an abstract concept to think about your heart.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:10:39

It's something I've only been really diving into in the last year and I

Ruby Roebuck: 00:10:44

think different embodiment practices have actually brought me to that space.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:10:50

And other reflective practices including being in nature and

Ruby Roebuck: 00:10:56

working with plants, plant tinctures.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:11:00

That are specifically used to get you to tune in to your heart and

Ruby Roebuck: 00:11:05

to your mind in different ways.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:11:06

So that has been a huge doorway for me.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:11:10

, and I think without doorways like that, , like sitting with plants or taking plant

Ruby Roebuck: 00:11:16

tinctures or being in nature or , being introduced to meditations that invite

Ruby Roebuck: 00:11:22

you into your heart, it can feel like a very abstract concept of like, oh,

Ruby Roebuck: 00:11:29

how do I even tune into my heart?

Ruby Roebuck: 00:11:31

I think that's the first question , what does that even feel like?

Ruby Roebuck: 00:11:35

How do we even open the door to feel our hearts?

Ruby Roebuck: 00:11:40

How do we know, you know, how do we know?

Ruby Roebuck: 00:11:42

It's not a feeling in our head or a feeling in our

Ruby Roebuck: 00:11:44

body, like anxiety, you know?

Ruby Roebuck: 00:11:47

Or when you like someone or you're attracted to someone, a

Ruby Roebuck: 00:11:50

lot of people think that's.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:11:52

in their heart.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:11:53

But I think there's so much more that goes on in our hearts , than we realize,

Ruby Roebuck: 00:11:59

but we need to be able to identify it.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:12:02

So I think part of the practice, why I listen to my heart is also like a

Ruby Roebuck: 00:12:08

continued practice of being discerning and differentiating what is in my

Ruby Roebuck: 00:12:13

heart versus what is in the other parts of my body versus what is in my

Ruby Roebuck: 00:12:16

brain and what is going on in my life.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:12:21

So it's all these different threads that are interconnected, but the

Ruby Roebuck: 00:12:25

practice of trying to just drop into your heart through embodiment and

Ruby Roebuck: 00:12:31

through meditation and maybe through writing could also be through song.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:12:35

I sing a lot.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:12:37

I also sing every morning as a way to just.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:12:41

open up and let things move.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:12:43

And I like to, , do a meditation.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:12:45

I imagine that I'm tuning into my heart and that I'm opening my heart

Ruby Roebuck: 00:12:49

and my heart's connecting to my hands, and then connecting up my throat

Ruby Roebuck: 00:12:55

and that I can speak from my heart.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:12:57

So I think having intention is a way to open that door, and

Ruby Roebuck: 00:13:02

it's always an exploration and it's always like trying to,

Ruby Roebuck: 00:13:06

turn up the volume of what's going on in our heart and trying to

Ruby Roebuck: 00:13:11

differentiate that from the other senses.

Amanda Lux: 00:13:13

I love that.

Amanda Lux: 00:13:14

That's really profound what you just said.

Amanda Lux: 00:13:17

I, and I just wanna reflect the exploration that you just gave around,

Amanda Lux: 00:13:22

what's the doorway we use to get there?

Amanda Lux: 00:13:24

And learning how to even differentiate, because it can be abstract, right?

Amanda Lux: 00:13:29

Without a specific road in say through a plant tincture or a guided

Amanda Lux: 00:13:33

meditation or a specific movement practice that gets you there.

Amanda Lux: 00:13:37

Like how does one even begin to differentiate what they're hearing?

Amanda Lux: 00:13:43

And I'm hearing that for you.

Amanda Lux: 00:13:46

There are many avenues that you use to get there, including song and movement

Amanda Lux: 00:13:50

and all those that we mentioned, , but learning to differentiate is important.

Amanda Lux: 00:13:56

Why?

Amanda Lux: 00:13:56

Why would you say that's important?

Amanda Lux: 00:13:58

Why I learned to listen?

Amanda Lux: 00:13:59

You know, again, just bringing it back to that root question.

Amanda Lux: 00:14:02

I'm just curious.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:14:04

Yeah.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:14:05

when we speak and act and are able to.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:14:10

, , really ground into our hearts and set an intention of living from our hearts

Ruby Roebuck: 00:14:17

and speaking from our hearts, and feeling our hearts that, , everything is

Ruby Roebuck: 00:14:22

magnified and intensified and beautified.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:14:27

Like the, the moments that I find myself in throughout the day are , just

Ruby Roebuck: 00:14:33

so, so precious and important and,

Ruby Roebuck: 00:14:36

, I can really feel, I can

Ruby Roebuck: 00:14:40

I can feel my body.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:14:42

I'm, it's, I'm so much more present.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:14:44

I'm so much more alive and awake and grateful.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:14:48

Being tuned into my heart really is also a gratitude practice.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:14:53

That's a really easy way also to start beginning to like find your heart.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:14:58

Like, where's my heart center?

Ruby Roebuck: 00:14:59

How do I feel?

Ruby Roebuck: 00:15:01

How do I feel that place?

Ruby Roebuck: 00:15:02

And for me it's gratitude.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:15:04

Like gratitude lives there and I can connect, I can drop back

Ruby Roebuck: 00:15:07

in , when I go back to gratitude.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:15:10

And when you have a practice of that, like for me, , it's every interaction.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:15:14

It's every new room that I step into.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:15:17

It's as often as I can to drop back into that place of gratitude.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:15:22

And when I'm able to do that, I'm, I feel as though I'm able to live my life fully.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:15:30

in a way that I can't when I don't have that same intention and

Ruby Roebuck: 00:15:34

that same connection to my heart.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:15:37

, and also I think it's really grounding

Ruby Roebuck: 00:15:42

Cuz we can get thrown off as human beings.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:15:45

There's so much energy and emotion and these stories of our lives.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:15:50

But when we come back to gratitude, it's like we see the

Ruby Roebuck: 00:15:53

world, , for the first time.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:15:55

From a place of saying thank you from a place of there's enough and

Ruby Roebuck: 00:16:01

it's exciting and these things that we want, or these things that we're

Ruby Roebuck: 00:16:05

feeling or something that's not quite right in our lives or in the moment.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:16:11

It doesn't have the, the most, my attention, like what has my

Ruby Roebuck: 00:16:15

attention is the love in the room.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:16:18

I'm always asking myself, where's the love in the room in this moment?

Ruby Roebuck: 00:16:22

How can I just , feel that love?

Ruby Roebuck: 00:16:25

And when I'm in that place, it's joyful and it's beautiful and

Ruby Roebuck: 00:16:30

I feel grateful to be alive.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:16:32

I feel grateful to have the array of human emotions and experiences and interactions

Ruby Roebuck: 00:16:38

and everything's colorful and beautiful and I, I bring it back to the earth also.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:16:43

And just that I get to be alive on this planet is a really, um, beautiful gift.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:16:51

And when we're able to see the world that way, to see each other

Ruby Roebuck: 00:16:54

in that way, like we're gifts that just keep giving by just being then.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:17:01

We have arrived.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:17:02

You know, we can feel fulfilled.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:17:05

We can connect to our integrity and our dignity and show up fully in

Ruby Roebuck: 00:17:09

the moment and give everything we wanna give and say what we wanna say.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:17:13

Like, there's no holding back.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:17:15

There's no holding back.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:17:16

In a sense, when you're speaking from your heart and you're

Ruby Roebuck: 00:17:19

tuning into that gratitude, it's like, why would I hold back?

Ruby Roebuck: 00:17:22

This is the fullest, this moment can be, and I'm, I'm connecting

Ruby Roebuck: 00:17:26

to that, to that mindset.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:17:30

Hmm.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:17:31

Wow.

Amanda Lux: 00:17:32

That's gorgeous.

Amanda Lux: 00:17:34

That's mind blowing and it makes me wanna cry.

Amanda Lux: 00:17:37

. Ruby Roebuck: Good cry.

Amanda Lux: 00:17:53

for somebody listening to you speak those words, . It might sound

Amanda Lux: 00:17:57

really cool to live in that space, but they maybe don't know that you

Amanda Lux: 00:18:02

actually do, and I know that because I know you and everybody that I know that

Amanda Lux: 00:18:07

knows you or meets you or gets to be around you has that experience of you

Amanda Lux: 00:18:14

that you really do live in that space.

Amanda Lux: 00:18:16

And it's really phenomenal.

Amanda Lux: 00:18:18

Ruby walks into the room and it's like a light just bursts out and they bring

Amanda Lux: 00:18:23

an authenticity of vulnerability and a generosity that is unparalleled.

Amanda Lux: 00:18:29

Like I've never met another person that does that the way

Amanda Lux: 00:18:31

you do, and it's just incredible.

Amanda Lux: 00:18:34

, and it's clearly something that you've cultivated consciously.

Amanda Lux: 00:18:38

I've watched you just bloom in your heart and in how you interact and how you bring

Amanda Lux: 00:18:44

that to spaces is wise way beyond yours, you know, it's incredible to behold that.

Amanda Lux: 00:18:52

And just being around you over this break, I kept seeing , how you are

Amanda Lux: 00:18:59

doing that inquiry for yourself, and then sharing that with me and

Amanda Lux: 00:19:04

asking me like, how is your heart, how are you feeling in your heart?

Amanda Lux: 00:19:09

And there were moments when you asked that question of me and it almost felt

Amanda Lux: 00:19:14

like too much, you know, where it would bring me into a space of vulnerability.

Amanda Lux: 00:19:19

And I wasn't prepared to go there.

Amanda Lux: 00:19:22

And then I had to be in that with, you know, full honesty and witness myself.

Amanda Lux: 00:19:28

There were moments that I had difficulty with that, but I really

Amanda Lux: 00:19:31

appreciated , that you do that.

Amanda Lux: 00:19:33

So yeah, why live there?

Amanda Lux: 00:19:35

Because it amplifies , the fullness of your experience, of your reality, that

Amanda Lux: 00:19:41

it puts you in touch with gratitude, with your own expression, and it breaks

Amanda Lux: 00:19:47

down those walls between individuals and between us and the earth and us.

Amanda Lux: 00:19:53

And every present moment experience, we can access that.

Amanda Lux: 00:19:58

When we come from our heart, it's, it's like we're in total truth, right?

Amanda Lux: 00:20:07

Yeah.

Amanda Lux: 00:20:07

Yeah.

Amanda Lux: 00:20:08

Mm-hmm.

Amanda Lux: 00:20:09

, and that's really, really powerful.

Amanda Lux: 00:20:11

It's really powerful.

Amanda Lux: 00:20:13

I know that you talk about grief a lot and that you experience your emotions

Amanda Lux: 00:20:18

and your grieving emotions a lot.

Amanda Lux: 00:20:22

And grief generally, relates to the throat chakra.

Amanda Lux: 00:20:26

And in the air element we have, the polls are actually more around judgment

Amanda Lux: 00:20:34

and, um, and generosity, , right?

Amanda Lux: 00:20:38

Those are more of the polarity polls of the heart chakra, the air element.

Amanda Lux: 00:20:43

, but I think it's a, uh, it's a gateway, right?

Amanda Lux: 00:20:46

Each of these energy centers are a gateway to the next.

Amanda Lux: 00:20:49

And also when we tune in and listen to the truth in our heart and the

Amanda Lux: 00:20:54

emotional places that we go to there, uh, the uncomfortable places that come.

Amanda Lux: 00:21:01

. I know that you do a lot of heart-centered practices around that, around

Amanda Lux: 00:21:06

feeling those uncomfortable emotions.

Amanda Lux: 00:21:08

I just thought I would invite you to speak to that, if there's

Amanda Lux: 00:21:10

anything you wanna say about that.

Amanda Lux: 00:21:12

Yeah,

Amanda Lux: 00:21:14

yeah.

Amanda Lux: 00:21:14

I think

Ruby Roebuck: 00:21:15

I used to go to, , the earth and the trees as a way to feel

Ruby Roebuck: 00:21:24

grounded and supported to feel my grief and to feel those, more uncomfortable

Ruby Roebuck: 00:21:31

parts of our heart, those vulnerable parts that feel almost like dangerous.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:21:37

Like you said, you felt almost not ready to go to these spaces

Ruby Roebuck: 00:21:42

all the time, as much as I was inviting you to, which is so fair.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:21:47

I think that's a huge reason why, why people, , kind of close, close

Ruby Roebuck: 00:21:53

down from their hearts and , don't even want to think about that

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or try to explore is it's scary.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:21:59

It's scary to be vulnerable and there's so much, it's like the

Ruby Roebuck: 00:22:03

center of, of our emotional body.

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I would think.

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Like that's where it's, it's the most concentrated.

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All of our feelings.

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Everything gets stuck and is buried.

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Anything we wanna find that we felt lives in our heart.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:22:17

So when we have practices to explore that so much comes up.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:22:23

So I used to make space in my day when I was doing a lot of learning

Ruby Roebuck: 00:22:28

in college about climate change.

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And the structures in this country that feel really oppressive , and really

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heavy, , that impact a lot of people's lives in really, really real ways.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:22:46

And I was just so in that world of organizing and learning and seeing

Ruby Roebuck: 00:22:52

those impacts on the houseless community and on folks of color and

Ruby Roebuck: 00:22:57

all of that, I was just really in it.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:22:58

And I still am.

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And that brings up a lot of grief.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:23:03

It brings up a lot of grief to be learning about all of the oppressive systems and,

Ruby Roebuck: 00:23:10

things that are going on to this planet.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:23:12

There's just so much loss right now.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:23:14

As well on like a global scale.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:23:17

Even if we're not learning about the news, even if we're not having conversations

Ruby Roebuck: 00:23:21

about it, it's still happening.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:23:24

You know, it's still happening in the background.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:23:26

However much you're looking at it, it's happening and your body and your energy

Ruby Roebuck: 00:23:31

and your heart is being impacted by that.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:23:33

So for me, I started having to create space to go into my heart and, and

Ruby Roebuck: 00:23:41

cry and move and move some of the grief cuz it was, taking over and I

Ruby Roebuck: 00:23:47

was just like refusing to go there.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:23:49

I was like, oh, it's fine.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:23:50

I'm just gonna keep working, work so hard, gotta keep going.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:23:53

Like I've got school to do, I've got things to do.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:23:56

I gotta serve food to the houses community.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:23:58

I was really just focused and , and kind of left my body behind.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:24:04

A little bit.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:24:04

So I, I wasn't sleeping a lot, I wasn't eating super well and it would

Ruby Roebuck: 00:24:10

result in me just feeling really stressed out, like all the time and

Ruby Roebuck: 00:24:15

feeling not very present and not really able to connect with people.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:24:20

I was very closed off from my body and my heart cause cuz I was feeling all

Ruby Roebuck: 00:24:24

this grief and all of this sadness and all these emotions and I just like was

Ruby Roebuck: 00:24:29

not making space to, to express them.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:24:33

So I started a practice in the spring when I finally realized,

Ruby Roebuck: 00:24:39

That I needed to, do this.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:24:40

It started to spill out basically in moments where I would be walking

Ruby Roebuck: 00:24:43

back from class in the woods and I would just lay on the earth on my

Ruby Roebuck: 00:24:46

back and look about the trees and just start crying and just start crying.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:24:51

And so I started like a daily practice where I would say to

Ruby Roebuck: 00:24:54

the earth, , what's in my heart?

Ruby Roebuck: 00:24:56

What is it that I need to look at?

Ruby Roebuck: 00:24:57

What is it that I need to heal?

Ruby Roebuck: 00:24:58

And what is it that I need to let go of?

Ruby Roebuck: 00:25:00

And I would just lay on my earth, on the earth like a baby, and I would kind of

Ruby Roebuck: 00:25:05

rock back and forth and just give myself this time to just have space to feel and

Ruby Roebuck: 00:25:11

to let go and to heal and to tune in.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:25:15

, and so I did that every day for a really long time.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:25:17

And then I just started listening to what I needed more, started prioritizing.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:25:21

It was like, oh, I need to eat.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:25:23

I need to sleep.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:25:24

I need to go on a walk.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:25:26

, I dropped one of my classes that was, felt really overwhelming and depressing.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:25:30

I started reading books that I really enjoyed instead of just reading books

Ruby Roebuck: 00:25:34

about history and climate change.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:25:36

So just finding that balance from listening to my body and

Ruby Roebuck: 00:25:40

listening to my heart after making that space and making that time.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:25:45

, and then I spent the summer being with kids.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:25:48

I just felt the call.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:25:49

I feel like the heart and like my intuition are connected, intertwined.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:25:55

So it's like a practice of listening to that and prioritizing it over

Ruby Roebuck: 00:26:01

pretty much everything else, including my job, including a stable place to

Ruby Roebuck: 00:26:06

live, including community identity school, all those things come

Ruby Roebuck: 00:26:11

after, what does my body need?

Ruby Roebuck: 00:26:13

What does my heart need?

Ruby Roebuck: 00:26:15

And what are those things saying?

Ruby Roebuck: 00:26:17

Where are they taking me?

, Amanda Lux: 00:26:18

I feel like I wanna just, I wanna like pop in

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again and just say , that is.

, Amanda Lux: 00:26:23

So true of you, like what you just said there.

, Amanda Lux: 00:26:26

Yeah.

, Amanda Lux: 00:26:27

. So I love that you brought that in and, and I just also just love where you're

, Amanda Lux: 00:26:32

going and what you're sharing about your own experience of the dangerous

, Amanda Lux: 00:26:38

feelings, and territory of the heart and how you navigate that, you know?

, Amanda Lux: 00:26:44

I have meditations, even free meditations, and maybe I'll put a link to one

, Amanda Lux: 00:26:48

About you like tuning into your intuition and the gateway there is the heart.

, Amanda Lux: 00:26:53

Mm-hmm.

, Amanda Lux: 00:26:54

. And so it just, what you said about that is very, very true.

, Amanda Lux: 00:26:57

You know?

, Amanda Lux: 00:26:57

Mm-hmm.

, Amanda Lux: 00:26:58

like the gateway to our higher knowing, really.

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I mean, you could say that the ether or the upper chakras are

, Amanda Lux: 00:27:05

the places of intuition, right.

, Amanda Lux: 00:27:07

That open that.

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But the heart, , it's such a, a brilliant way to listen and

, Amanda Lux: 00:27:15

it does bridge, the body.

, Amanda Lux: 00:27:17

You really can't hear your, your intuition without that piece.

, Amanda Lux: 00:27:20

Like you can't hear your truth without that piece.

, Amanda Lux: 00:27:22

Your heart has to be online.

, Amanda Lux: 00:27:25

Yeah.

, Amanda Lux: 00:27:26

. Ruby Roebuck: I would just say that

, Amanda Lux: 00:27:30

We have to make the space to feel what's going on . Only then can we move what's

, Amanda Lux: 00:27:39

there, you know, because after I started making that space to feel all of the grief

, Amanda Lux: 00:27:44

that I was feeling around the earth all of the suffering and all of the things

, Amanda Lux: 00:27:50

that I can't control, and, , throughout history , and right now, there was so

, Amanda Lux: 00:27:57

much opening that became possible.

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So now I have a daily practice of, , making room, to feel and to

, Amanda Lux: 00:28:08

let my grief move and to let my grief.

, Amanda Lux: 00:28:12

, and that's different on different days.

, Amanda Lux: 00:28:15

That requires a different amount of time.

, Amanda Lux: 00:28:16

Like often I've been playing the piano and that's actually my, like

, Amanda Lux: 00:28:20

a practice that I give to my grief.

, Amanda Lux: 00:28:23

I cry like almost every day, y'all . It's not funny.

, Amanda Lux: 00:28:28

, because I know that's a way, it's not even funny.

, Amanda Lux: 00:28:31

And I'm vocal about it.

, Amanda Lux: 00:28:33

I'm vocal about it because I think it's good and important.

, Amanda Lux: 00:28:36

Yes.

, Amanda Lux: 00:28:36

, so that's one of my practices, , when I cry, is like creating an outlet

, Amanda Lux: 00:28:41

and a space that's literally just for expressing whatever is in my heart.

, Amanda Lux: 00:28:47

And oftentimes it is grief.

, Amanda Lux: 00:28:48

It is like, oh man, there's, there's so much death and extraction

, Amanda Lux: 00:28:54

of this beautiful planet that I love that I cannot protect.

, Amanda Lux: 00:28:59

Hmm.

, Amanda Lux: 00:29:00

And it's not all on me.

, Amanda Lux: 00:29:02

And this is the human race being a beautiful species

, Amanda Lux: 00:29:07

doing what it's here to do.

, Amanda Lux: 00:29:09

We're all living.

, Amanda Lux: 00:29:11

So how can I place myself.

, Amanda Lux: 00:29:15

, , in my life, and also when I think about the collective body, what I wanna do is be

, Amanda Lux: 00:29:21

like feeling my feelings and moving them.

, Amanda Lux: 00:29:23

That's where I wanna be.

, Amanda Lux: 00:29:24

I wanna be located in the heart of the collective body.

, Amanda Lux: 00:29:27

Mm-hmm.

, Amanda Lux: 00:29:28

. If every human being came together, I'm gonna make room when I cry to

, Amanda Lux: 00:29:32

like play the piano to make something beautiful and to really go to the

, Amanda Lux: 00:29:35

depths of my being, you know, on behalf of everything and everyone.

, Amanda Lux: 00:29:41

that's going on.

, Amanda Lux: 00:29:41

And then it also becomes a prayer.

, Amanda Lux: 00:29:43

And it's not just like I'm, I'm sad and I don't dunno what to do.

, Amanda Lux: 00:29:48

And you know, When we have practices that allow us to explore our hearts

, Amanda Lux: 00:29:53

and our emotions, we can create, we can actually create something

, Amanda Lux: 00:29:57

beautiful that we're like proud.

, Amanda Lux: 00:30:00

Like you can turn it into something.

, Amanda Lux: 00:30:02

So that's one of the reasons I play the piano is that I get to just play

, Amanda Lux: 00:30:05

and I'm usually crying and sometimes I close my eyes, I just play and

, Amanda Lux: 00:30:10

something beautiful comes out of that.

, Amanda Lux: 00:30:13

And I don't know how to play the piano just so everybody knows . I

, Amanda Lux: 00:30:16

don't know what the notes are, but sometimes I try different beats and

, Amanda Lux: 00:30:20

it'll be fun and sometimes it doesn't sound good and sometimes I just run

, Amanda Lux: 00:30:24

my fingers up and down the keys,

, Amanda Lux: 00:30:26

or I'll just use my voice and let out loud sounds or I'll sing

, Amanda Lux: 00:30:31

without words or I'll sing and words will come that are comforting.

, Amanda Lux: 00:30:37

Or I'll even sing prayers, like prayers to the earth.

, Amanda Lux: 00:30:39

I'll just say , thank you.

, Amanda Lux: 00:30:41

Thank you for this life.

, Amanda Lux: 00:30:42

I love you.

, Amanda Lux: 00:30:43

And I'll just cry and cry and cry.

, Amanda Lux: 00:30:45

And sometimes it's other things too, you know, about my childhood

, Amanda Lux: 00:30:49

or relationships or whatever's going on that's just like, yeah.

, Amanda Lux: 00:30:54

Feels painful.

, Amanda Lux: 00:30:56

It's painful and we don't wanna feel our pain.

, Amanda Lux: 00:30:58

Why would we wanna feel our pain?

, Amanda Lux: 00:30:59

It's painful.

, Amanda Lux: 00:31:02

, you know, it doesn't feel good.

, Amanda Lux: 00:31:04

Like I'd rather turn on the tv.

, Amanda Lux: 00:31:05

Like that's more fun in the moment.

, Amanda Lux: 00:31:08

Yes, we're able to like, Play music or dance or move or lay on the earth.

, Amanda Lux: 00:31:13

Like do something that gives you support, that gives you an outlet that gives you

, Amanda Lux: 00:31:19

creativity or movement or allows you to express, then we can change shape, we can

, Amanda Lux: 00:31:24

change our relationship to that feeling.

, Amanda Lux: 00:31:26

We can change our relationship to grief.

, Amanda Lux: 00:31:28

And it becomes empowering and it becomes motivation and energy

, Amanda Lux: 00:31:32

that's being recycled and that's being moved and that's being put out

, Amanda Lux: 00:31:36

into the earth and into the universe in a really beautiful healing way.

, Amanda Lux: 00:31:40

And when we heal ourselves, it heals the collective.

, Amanda Lux: 00:31:42

Yeah.

, Amanda Lux: 00:31:43

And it heals everything that's going on.

, Amanda Lux: 00:31:44

Yeah.

, Amanda Lux: 00:31:45

So I like really center that in all of my practices and like, yeah, I'm

, Amanda Lux: 00:31:48

gonna sit here, I'm gonna cry because I know this is good for all of us.

, Amanda Lux: 00:31:53

, and this is, this is good medicine, and that's my intention.

, Amanda Lux: 00:31:56

And then it becomes that, and then it becomes beautiful, and

, Amanda Lux: 00:31:59

then I'm not scared anymore.

, Amanda Lux: 00:32:00

And then the pain is also love, you know, and it's also liberation, and it's also

, Amanda Lux: 00:32:05

justice, and it's also movement work.

, Amanda Lux: 00:32:08

And then it, it feels grounded in all of my values.

, Amanda Lux: 00:32:12

So making that space is, is so deeply important to me, even if it just

, Amanda Lux: 00:32:18

feels like playing also, you know, like dancing or singing or writing

, Amanda Lux: 00:32:22

poetry, or I'll also play the piano just for fun, but as an intention

, Amanda Lux: 00:32:27

to feel what's going on in my heart.

, Amanda Lux: 00:32:29

Mm-hmm.

, Amanda Lux: 00:32:31

So that's my main.

, Amanda Lux: 00:32:33

daily practice.

, Amanda Lux: 00:32:34

Just giving that space and allowing whatever to come through to come through.

, Amanda Lux: 00:32:37

And sometimes I'll start off crying and then I end up laughing and singing

, Amanda Lux: 00:32:41

and it's like the best, you know?

, Amanda Lux: 00:32:43

But I wouldn't ever know.

, Amanda Lux: 00:32:45

I wouldn't know if I didn't go there, you know?

, Amanda Lux: 00:32:49

Yeah.

Amanda Lux: 00:33:02

I love everything you're saying.

Amanda Lux: 00:33:03

It's so good.

Amanda Lux: 00:33:05

I've just been over here just weeping, , silently weeping.

Amanda Lux: 00:33:09

I have like tears running down into my shirt, . Aww.

Amanda Lux: 00:33:15

Just because it's so beautiful what you're saying, what you're sharing, it's

Amanda Lux: 00:33:19

so vivid and so true, and I love you and how you express your heart so much,

Amanda Lux: 00:33:25

and I'm just so honored to get to have this conversation with you right now.

Amanda Lux: 00:33:31

I feel so divinely aligned.

Amanda Lux: 00:33:33

I was like, how am I gonna get to this place of aligning through my heart?

Amanda Lux: 00:33:38

How am I gonna share from here?

Amanda Lux: 00:33:40

And all I kept hearing as I tuned in was, all the ways that I

Amanda Lux: 00:33:46

wasn't aligning through my air.

Amanda Lux: 00:33:48

Like the ways my patterns were coming up super hard a general sense of

Amanda Lux: 00:33:54

sort of mental chaos and negative thoughts, cycles and all the things,

Amanda Lux: 00:34:00

I have had this awareness and I've been meditating hard on it.

Amanda Lux: 00:34:04

How do I speak about alignment when I feel so unaligned there?

Amanda Lux: 00:34:08

And I just kept hearing you Ruby in my head.

Amanda Lux: 00:34:13

Just inviting that vulnerability and that observational quality

Amanda Lux: 00:34:19

in a neutral way, right.

Amanda Lux: 00:34:21

And a truth, a truthful way.

Amanda Lux: 00:34:24

And I felt less afraid of how afraid I was in there, you know,

Amanda Lux: 00:34:29

of my own, , challenging places.

Amanda Lux: 00:34:33

And so to have this conversation with you is so personal.

Amanda Lux: 00:34:36

And yet also just it's such a gift that the way that you express is such a gift.

Amanda Lux: 00:34:41

It's profound what you're saying and what you're sharing.

Amanda Lux: 00:34:45

And I think that a lot of people can relate to the

Amanda Lux: 00:34:48

feelings of overwhelm of grief.

Amanda Lux: 00:34:51

And if anybody is paying attention, to anything beyond themself, then they're

Amanda Lux: 00:34:56

gonna be feeling that on some level.

Amanda Lux: 00:34:58

And I love how you said, yeah, we're feeling it even if we're not aware that

Amanda Lux: 00:35:01

we're feeling it cuz we are all a part of the collective and it is happening.

Amanda Lux: 00:35:06

There's so many unjust things going on and ways that the earth is not

Amanda Lux: 00:35:12

being honored and things that we need to shift and change as a race, you

Amanda Lux: 00:35:19

know, a human race and bring more awareness to and more compassion too.

Amanda Lux: 00:35:23

And , one thing I hear you speaking to a lot is, this constant question

Amanda Lux: 00:35:29

of how can you be a good ancestor?

Amanda Lux: 00:35:33

Yeah.

Amanda Lux: 00:35:33

To me, that speaks to.

Amanda Lux: 00:35:35

Zooming out of this present moment of the personal experience, whether

Amanda Lux: 00:35:40

it's of pain or pleasure, right?

Amanda Lux: 00:35:44

Whether, if it's of love or loss, that whatever we're experiencing on a personal

Amanda Lux: 00:35:50

level is totally related and connected to the grander scale thing of how we're

Amanda Lux: 00:35:57

all connected, not just to one another, but throughout time going forward and

Amanda Lux: 00:36:03

how our personal process ripples out.

Amanda Lux: 00:36:07

And so when you are doing that work, you're doing that work for everyone

Amanda Lux: 00:36:12

throughout time and history and moving forward into the future, right?

Amanda Lux: 00:36:17

How can you be a good ancestor?

Amanda Lux: 00:36:18

When I hear you talk about that, it's like, it really puts me in touch with

Amanda Lux: 00:36:21

, the lineage that was and will be, and how we can affect that ripple, you know.

Amanda Lux: 00:36:28

. . Ruby Roebuck: Yeah.

Amanda Lux: 00:36:28

And I think that's also a beautiful way to locate yourself in your

Amanda Lux: 00:36:33

own, , relationship to your emotions and your process too.

Amanda Lux: 00:36:39

Like when we give it that context, we give it that spaciousness and

Amanda Lux: 00:36:44

that relationship of like, oh wow.

Amanda Lux: 00:36:48

, , how I heal and feel my emotions today and the interactions that I have, how

Amanda Lux: 00:36:54

will that affect the future generations?

Amanda Lux: 00:36:57

And I think also,

Amanda Lux: 00:36:59

, just what you brought up about , Feeling a

Amanda Lux: 00:37:04

of uncomfortable feelings and observing, noticing that there's so, much going on

Amanda Lux: 00:37:13

that maybe isn't how you want it to be.

Amanda Lux: 00:37:16

And you're, he would experience, you're like, ah, can't sleep have these negative

Amanda Lux: 00:37:20

thought loops or patterns, you know?

Amanda Lux: 00:37:23

And it's like, that's so real.

Amanda Lux: 00:37:25

So much of this practice is about accepting where we are instead of

Amanda Lux: 00:37:30

going, , somewhere else in our lives.

Amanda Lux: 00:37:34

Like, oh, if only I could be better.

Amanda Lux: 00:37:37

If only I knew more.

Amanda Lux: 00:37:38

If only I could have left.

Amanda Lux: 00:37:39

If only I, you know?

Amanda Lux: 00:37:41

Yeah.

Amanda Lux: 00:37:41

It's like we, we can let go of that and we can just like drop in to this moment.

Amanda Lux: 00:37:46

I loved what you said also about, , hearing my voice and feeling safety

Amanda Lux: 00:37:51

it, to me it felt like you felt.

Amanda Lux: 00:37:54

The presence of safety to feel your heart in a neutral way, in that way of like,

Amanda Lux: 00:38:00

not judging, but just being like, yeah, there's all this stuff going on in my

Amanda Lux: 00:38:04

human life that's really hard and can I just observe it and can I be loving?

Amanda Lux: 00:38:10

And maybe that's the point of the heart center practice is to actually just be

Amanda Lux: 00:38:15

loving to all this shit that's going on.

Amanda Lux: 00:38:18

Yeah, that's, the tension and the uncomfortable.

Amanda Lux: 00:38:21

There's a lot of that and how do we just like coat ourselves in love and

Amanda Lux: 00:38:27

just be so loving and so present and also come back to that gratitude of

Amanda Lux: 00:38:33

like, yeah, thank God I have a body.

Amanda Lux: 00:38:35

Thank God I'm not perfect.

Amanda Lux: 00:38:37

Thank God I get to feel pain and get to feel tension and stay up all night

Amanda Lux: 00:38:41

worrying because then I get to learn and grow and I get to relax, you know?

Amanda Lux: 00:38:46

Exactly.

Amanda Lux: 00:38:46

Yeah.

Amanda Lux: 00:38:48

and I do, it's so hard to be grateful in the

Amanda Lux: 00:38:50

moment when you're suffering.

Amanda Lux: 00:38:52

Yeah, yeah.

Amanda Lux: 00:38:52

It's so hard to be grateful for the suffering, and yet I think that's a really

Amanda Lux: 00:38:56

brilliant point that you're bringing up.

Amanda Lux: 00:38:58

That the practice, especially when we think about gratitude practice as a

Amanda Lux: 00:39:03

way of being in our heart and listening to the heart and aligning our energy

Amanda Lux: 00:39:08

through our heart center, that it's not about just getting to the good stuff.

Amanda Lux: 00:39:14

You know, it's about being with what is and creating safe places, to do that.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:39:20

That's a huge piece of all of it, because if you

Ruby Roebuck: 00:39:22

don't feel safe, you're not gonna be able to tune into your heart.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:39:25

You're not gonna be able to handle it.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:39:27

Yeah.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:39:27

It's gonna be too much.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:39:28

So you have to be grounded in something.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:39:31

And maybe that's therapy and maybe it's a friend or a partner, maybe

Ruby Roebuck: 00:39:35

it's an instrument, you know, maybe it's a walk in the woods.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:39:39

But it's finding, identifying those places I think is, is a huge step.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:39:44

And then also that factor of , , , how are we stuck in our emotions or

Ruby Roebuck: 00:39:48

how are we relating to them?

Ruby Roebuck: 00:39:50

And I think when we do zoom out, it gives us such a beautiful opportunity

Ruby Roebuck: 00:39:55

to be related in a different way.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:39:57

Yeah.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:39:58

In a, in a multidimensional way, in a whole species way.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:40:02

You know, it's like, oh, I'm a piece of this collective and I'm not alone.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:40:05

, nothing I feel is in isolation.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:40:09

A bunch of other people are feeling the same thing.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:40:11

Probably.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:40:11

It's the exact same moment.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:40:13

And if we can like tune into that, if we can remember that.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:40:15

And that's something my teachers have said too.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:40:18

So just shout out, , I'm always learning and listening and I wanna, , shout out,

Ruby Roebuck: 00:40:24

, Lama Rod Owens, who's wrote a book called Radical Dharma, that's all about feeling

Ruby Roebuck: 00:40:31

your grief and healing , , and it's about liberation, but also about Buddhism.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:40:37

So how do we have a spiritual practice where we're also thinking about the

Ruby Roebuck: 00:40:41

collective and thinking about social justice and environmental justice and

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moving towards a world we wanna live in a world of, , balance and respect for all,

Ruby Roebuck: 00:40:52

for all beings, human and, and non beings.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:40:55

So shout out to Lama Rod.

Amanda Lux: 00:40:58

Um hmm.

Amanda Lux: 00:40:59

I love that.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:41:00

He was somebody who helped plant that seed of

Ruby Roebuck: 00:41:03

thinking about the collective body and thinking about our ancestors

Ruby Roebuck: 00:41:08

if we think about what they've been through like 10 generations ago, a hundred

Ruby Roebuck: 00:41:12

generations ago, we really tune into the hardships that they've been through.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:41:18

Even if it's that, if it's just imagined, , it's likely the situations

Ruby Roebuck: 00:41:24

were so much more intense and yet the feelings are, are very similar.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:41:30

Those feelings when we feel just like at the darkest, hardest places

Ruby Roebuck: 00:41:35

or the scariest places, we can remember that the people that came

Ruby Roebuck: 00:41:39

before us have survived and we're here because they have survived and

Ruby Roebuck: 00:41:43

we're here cuz of their love and their existence and their determination.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:41:49

, it's powerful to remember that.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:41:51

Yeah.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:41:51

Yeah.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:41:51

Powerful tool of support, to tune into that.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:41:56

. And again, what, what kind of ancestors do we wanna be?

Ruby Roebuck: 00:42:01

I, and I think about that every day.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:42:04

I think about like, when I die or when I'm about to die, what do I wish I had done?

Ruby Roebuck: 00:42:09

What I wish I, I would have said to you , on this day, you know?

Ruby Roebuck: 00:42:14

And it reminds me right now, , I'm like, oh yeah, I have to say I love you.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:42:16

, I just want you to know I'm really grateful.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:42:19

You know, I really, I oughta help clean the downstairs and all this stuff.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:42:24

You know, that, that's very real, that's very relevant to our lives,

Ruby Roebuck: 00:42:28

this life to my relationships.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:42:30

So it's like, it's such a powerful

Amanda Lux: 00:42:31

tool.

Amanda Lux: 00:42:32

In my mind, that's like the yogic practice.

Amanda Lux: 00:42:34

It's like, how can I be present with my suffering in this moment so that when

Amanda Lux: 00:42:39

I need to be good and expert at being able to deal with my suffering in those

Amanda Lux: 00:42:45

other moments, I know how to do that.

Amanda Lux: 00:42:47

I know that place in myself that I can go, and I've cultivated the pathway there

Amanda Lux: 00:42:51

every day, every day in my practice.

Amanda Lux: 00:42:53

So I love what you're saying and what you're sharing around that.

Amanda Lux: 00:43:07

For myself, one of the ways that, that I do find balance in my air, in my

Amanda Lux: 00:43:13

heart when I am, you know, like this morning when I was sitting with my

Amanda Lux: 00:43:17

own, , struggle with it and going, how do I speak about alignment when I feel

Amanda Lux: 00:43:23

so unaligned there, ? And what, what came up for me in that moment was, Uh,

Amanda Lux: 00:43:32

just the humor, like seeing it as kind of funny and ironic and I was like, oh,

Amanda Lux: 00:43:36

isn't it just hilarious, funny, not funny that here I am trying to like muse

Amanda Lux: 00:43:43

on how to align your energy through your heart, and all I can see are the ways

Amanda Lux: 00:43:48

that I'm not re finding that alignment.

Amanda Lux: 00:43:51

You know, all, all that's coming forward for me are the challenge points.

Amanda Lux: 00:43:57

And, and so I just had a really good laugh about that this morning, , and,

Amanda Lux: 00:44:05

and it helped lighten it up a little.

Amanda Lux: 00:44:07

It helped me to just see , well, , duh, it's not like, let me be an expert

Amanda Lux: 00:44:13

and tell you how, how it is, you know, it's actually about how we can be

Amanda Lux: 00:44:20

vulnerable and truthful and, and in it,

Amanda Lux: 00:44:22

because we all have our own experience of what it's like to live there in moments.

Amanda Lux: 00:44:26

Yeah.

Amanda Lux: 00:44:26

But, and then we all have our, the experience of not feeling safe to be

Amanda Lux: 00:44:31

there and of feeling, challenged.

Amanda Lux: 00:44:35

It can feel heavy and what helps for me is to , make it funny, is to

Amanda Lux: 00:44:40

just see the humor of it, to see the lightness and to take myself a little

Amanda Lux: 00:44:44

less seriously and be willing to just be in it, you know, whatever it is.

Amanda Lux: 00:44:50

And again, that makes me think about you and your work with children and

Amanda Lux: 00:44:54

your observations in how often adults don't have the patience to relate

Amanda Lux: 00:45:00

to children and to get in that way.

Amanda Lux: 00:45:03

But you have a really special way of doing that.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:45:06

I love being around children and working with kids

Ruby Roebuck: 00:45:10

in a lot of different settings.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:45:12

, I think they're, they're like my greatest teachers, I think they are

Ruby Roebuck: 00:45:18

like the most heart-centered that a human can be is when you're a child.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:45:22

You're just born that way.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:45:26

And it's just such a gift to be around kids and to see that level of natural

Ruby Roebuck: 00:45:33

playfulness and engagement with life and curiosity and joy and love and wanting to

Ruby Roebuck: 00:45:39

connect and speaking really free freely.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:45:43

They don't have all of these societal conditioning and norms and the ego and

Ruby Roebuck: 00:45:50

everything that we get we're raised and then, , we, we are tainted and

Ruby Roebuck: 00:45:56

we're closed off and we're impacted by all these people around us.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:46:00

But when you're a kid, , there's so much freedom and liberation and

Ruby Roebuck: 00:46:04

joy and, , curiosity and like full body engagement with the world.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:46:10

And I think that's, The best, , dynamic, honestly, even with parents, like the

Ruby Roebuck: 00:46:16

most healthy, beautiful relationships I've seen is when the kids take the lead.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:46:23

And I'm reading a book right now, shout out , it's called Trust Kids,

Ruby Roebuck: 00:46:27

um, essays on Adult Supremacy.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:46:30

And it's all about like, how do we dismantle this idea that adults know more?

Ruby Roebuck: 00:46:35

It's like no kids are let kids lead the way.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:46:38

Life is vibrant and free and loving and beautiful and fun, playful.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:46:45

So I think we can learn all about the heart from being around

Ruby Roebuck: 00:46:49

kids and letting them guide.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:46:52

You raised me with a lot of respect for who I am.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:46:56

And that's like really shaped me.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:46:58

Like I think our parents shape us a lot, you know?

Ruby Roebuck: 00:47:03

That intention that you've had has just been such a gift to

Ruby Roebuck: 00:47:06

allow me to , trust myself.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:47:08

That Oh, yeah.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:47:09

I, I, I, I do wanna trust my, my intuition and my being, and it's

Ruby Roebuck: 00:47:15

beautiful when we can give that to each other and especially to kids.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:47:20

And I think you did such an incredible job also as a mother and as a parent

Ruby Roebuck: 00:47:25

in that regard of respect and listening.

, Amanda Lux: 00:47:45

is there anything that you would like to stay in

, Amanda Lux: 00:47:48

closing of this conversation?

, Amanda Lux: 00:47:52

Anything that you wanna share about how and why and what we do around alignment.

, Amanda Lux: 00:47:59

Finding that energetic alignment through the heart.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:48:03

I think it really is like in an exploration and an ongoing

Ruby Roebuck: 00:48:09

process, like we're always just tuning into , what are we processing right now?

Ruby Roebuck: 00:48:15

And I think that can start with asking questions and giving yourself

Ruby Roebuck: 00:48:20

just a little bit of space and a little bit of grace to feel what

Ruby Roebuck: 00:48:26

you're feeling and to allow whatever comes through, like laughter.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:48:30

Like you gave yourself a little space to tune in and there was some struggle

Ruby Roebuck: 00:48:37

and some emotion and then laughter came and that means things are unwinding,

Ruby Roebuck: 00:48:43

so how can we support ourselves?

Ruby Roebuck: 00:48:46

On behalf of our own lives, the fullness of the experience of our

Ruby Roebuck: 00:48:51

lives, how much joy do we wanna feel?

Ruby Roebuck: 00:48:54

How much suffering?

Ruby Roebuck: 00:48:55

If we can feel our suffering, then we can feel our joy.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:48:58

So I, I hope that anybody listening, , feels inspired and supported to

Ruby Roebuck: 00:49:07

create a little more space to explore, explore your heart, and, to think

Ruby Roebuck: 00:49:12

about how, your heart is connected to every other part of your being.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:49:19

Just identifying moments of love.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:49:22

That's one of my favorite daily practices.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:49:25

I, I even do it like when I leave the grocery store, something simple like that.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:49:29

I'm like, where did I.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:49:31

, when did I feel love or when did I sense love?

Ruby Roebuck: 00:49:35

And where did that show up in my body?

Ruby Roebuck: 00:49:38

And one example is like I saw somebody, , who ran into an old friend the other

Ruby Roebuck: 00:49:44

day and it was the moment when they saw each other and they both smiled

Ruby Roebuck: 00:49:49

and then they kind of went off talking.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:49:50

And I wasn't really listening, but I was just kind of feeling and

Ruby Roebuck: 00:49:53

sensing and watching this interaction just kind of in my periphery.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:49:58

And that came up like after I left the store.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:50:00

And I was like, when did I sense love?

Ruby Roebuck: 00:50:01

When did I feel love?

Ruby Roebuck: 00:50:02

And it was in this like moment.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:50:04

And that was a way and that space of reflecting that I identified

Ruby Roebuck: 00:50:09

something beautiful and precious.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:50:11

So how can we do that?

Ruby Roebuck: 00:50:12

How can we tease out these moments and remember how, fucking precious

Ruby Roebuck: 00:50:18

life is and how love really is present everywhere we are.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:50:23

, . So how can we bring that into our view and start to look for it?

Ruby Roebuck: 00:50:26

And then we invited in and then we're living our lives with eyes that are

Ruby Roebuck: 00:50:32

always seeing that love everywhere.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:50:34

Mm-hmm.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:50:35

. But of course there's struggle and pain too.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:50:37

So not to, not to think that I'm all knowing or, you know, I'm always

Ruby Roebuck: 00:50:42

learning and struggling and crying and, you know, but I, I do that

Ruby Roebuck: 00:50:48

as a way to reground and that love and to see that beauty.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:50:51

There's beauty in being human.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:50:53

It's beautiful.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:50:54

So that's, that's my little invitation if anybody wants to, , feel into that.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:51:00

Mm.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:51:01

And it could be in yourself also.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:51:03

Yeah.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:51:04

Like where do I feel love in myself,

Amanda Lux: 00:51:06

you know, I love that inquiry so much

Amanda Lux: 00:51:11

I think I've cried more in the last hour conversation with

Amanda Lux: 00:51:15

you than I've cried in a while.

Amanda Lux: 00:51:17

Aw.

Amanda Lux: 00:51:17

Just hearing you talk and , I'm going to continue to anchor through this, for

Amanda Lux: 00:51:23

myself, when I ask that question to get into a safe place in my heart, I'm

Amanda Lux: 00:51:29

going to think about you and the love I have for you and just how you live

Amanda Lux: 00:51:33

and share that and how you teach me that and how incredibly special that that is.

Amanda Lux: 00:51:40

And so I'm just tuning in and feeling that in the moment.

Amanda Lux: 00:51:44

How much love I have for you and your wisdom and your way, it's

Amanda Lux: 00:51:49

such a beautiful contract that we have as mother daughter.

Amanda Lux: 00:51:55

Yeah.

Amanda Lux: 00:51:56

It's really special and special to get to share it here in this way.

Amanda Lux: 00:52:00

I've wanted to have you on here for so long , and this is, this was the doorway,

Ruby Roebuck: 00:52:06

Yes, it was

Ruby Roebuck: 00:52:09

. . Amanda Lux: So I'm gonna, I'm

Ruby Roebuck: 00:52:13

this feeling, this experience.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:52:14

Your words, your energy.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:52:17

And I also wanna just extend that, you know, to anyone listening.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:52:22

I guess I wanna just extend that field of love.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:52:26

That it's here between you and I in this moment, in that familial, ancient way.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:52:33

Through our DNA and all of the lifetimes and such that I'm sure we've

Ruby Roebuck: 00:52:37

explored together and will explore throughout time and space and dimensions

Ruby Roebuck: 00:52:42

and , that anyone else in the field of the listening of this, no matter

Ruby Roebuck: 00:52:46

when or how, or who is also connected.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:52:51

Hmm.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:52:51

Is also that a part of that human , familial way, that spirit connection

Ruby Roebuck: 00:52:58

that we all share and that we can expand this love between you and I, that we can

Ruby Roebuck: 00:53:04

expand that and include anyone listening and anyone that's in their field.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:53:10

Right.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:53:11

Expanding that out.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:53:13

Yeah.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:53:13

And just feeling our connection of our, the, our vulnerable hearts and

Ruby Roebuck: 00:53:19

how much love we can fit in there.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:53:23

Yeah.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:53:23

And that we can ripple that out and we can all ride that wave together and.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:53:30

. I really do feel in this moment like that is so healing to just tune into that.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:53:37

Yeah.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:53:38

The heart pulse of our connection throughout all people and all beings,

Ruby Roebuck: 00:53:46

and I wanna live in that place.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:53:49

It is uncomfortable , but it is so deep and so beautiful, and

Ruby Roebuck: 00:53:55

so, so lovely and so precious.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:54:01

Thank you for reminding me of that.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:54:05

Thank you.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:54:06

Thank you for creating me,

Ruby Roebuck: 00:54:10

. Amanda Lux: Thank you for creating me

Ruby Roebuck: 00:54:12

. Ruby Roebuck: I am, I'm so, , grateful

Ruby Roebuck: 00:54:17

Mm-hmm.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:54:18

And you're amazing beingness this, I really do, , look up to you

Ruby Roebuck: 00:54:26

and admire you and just feel , so grateful to have landed in this home

Ruby Roebuck: 00:54:33

of a body and this home of a family

Amanda Lux: 00:54:35

and

Ruby Roebuck: 00:54:36

Yeah.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:54:36

And, and this life.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:54:38

And and I love you.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:54:40

You're awesome.

Amanda Lux: 00:54:41

You're awesome.

Amanda Lux: 00:54:41

You have a really good day.

Amanda Lux: 00:54:42

I'm like so raw now.

Amanda Lux: 00:54:44

I'm like, just been crying this entire time.

Amanda Lux: 00:54:51

Aw, so beautiful.

Amanda Lux: 00:54:53

Every word.

Amanda Lux: 00:54:54

I was like, , oh my God.

Amanda Lux: 00:54:55

You're the wisest, sweetest, coolest person I've ever known, and I'm

Amanda Lux: 00:55:00

so lucky to be related to you.

Amanda Lux: 00:55:03

Back at

Ruby Roebuck: 00:55:03

you.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:55:04

God, I love you.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:55:08

Have a good day, mom.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:55:10

I love.

Ruby Roebuck: 00:55:10

Bye bye.

Amanda Lux: 00:55:22

Thank you so much for listening to this episode of a Lone

Amanda Lux: 00:55:26

Traveler's Guide to the Divine.

Amanda Lux: 00:55:29

. It is such an incredible honor to have shared this intimate conversation

Amanda Lux: 00:55:34

with my daughter in this way.

Amanda Lux: 00:55:37

I love that it came through the synchronicity of them calling me

Amanda Lux: 00:55:40

as soon as I hit record, and that throughout this episode, I was

Amanda Lux: 00:55:46

able to find my own alignment.

Amanda Lux: 00:55:49

And I just wanna remind you to go and check out the YouTube video

Amanda Lux: 00:55:54

that accompanies this episode, which is a sharing of my adventures

Amanda Lux: 00:56:00

painting in Puerto Rico, and then also I wanted to invite you to check

Amanda Lux: 00:56:04

out my website at elevationhive.com

Amanda Lux: 00:56:08

for in-person classes and polarity and cranial sacral therapy and also

Amanda Lux: 00:56:14

online courses and more, resources that are coming all the time.

Amanda Lux: 00:56:20

So make sure that you check out those links in the show notes

Amanda Lux: 00:56:24

And I guess I wanna just say in closing of this episode that.

Amanda Lux: 00:56:29

It's okay to always be learning and growing and that the ways that we

Amanda Lux: 00:56:34

come to our alignment are through the exact ways that we fall out of it.

Amanda Lux: 00:56:41

And I just am really wanting to.

Amanda Lux: 00:56:44

To lean in on that vulnerability and authenticity that comes from

Amanda Lux: 00:56:50

really inhabiting the heart space.

Amanda Lux: 00:56:53

So, Thank you for listening and I appreciate your willingness to

Amanda Lux: 00:57:00

participate with your energy through sharing and commenting , even just

Amanda Lux: 00:57:04

being here in the field of this conversation means so much to me.

Amanda Lux: 00:57:09

So thank you.

Amanda Lux: 00:57:10

It is such an honor to be in sacred community with you.